Debian.

It’s pretty great for desktop stuff these days. Basically Ubuntu minus the shit. Any desktop you want, it’s got live installers now (several different ones with different desktops), it’s got nonfree firmware on the disc, they’ve really upped their game.

(And if the recent systemd stuff skeeves you out, you can toss out systemd, even. It’s not for the faint of heart though.)

– Frost

Zelda Ocarina of Time is probably a solid contender.

Played it on our 3DS and it just felt like a worse Twilight Princess.

– Frost

Finally, we’re not just the Crazy Weirdos anymore!

It’d be awesome to get alternate init systems on, say, Debian hammered out into a more user-friendly shape. It’s already fairly decent but feels a tad precarious and the initial setup is way too involved. (We’re running OpenRC personally.)

– Frost

yes please! We’re using OpenRC on Debian right now, it’s very nice. Way less annoying than systemd.

– Frost

It totally does! We used to use it on Mac, back before we switched to Linux.

– Frost

Xboxen!

Ah yes, the literal embodiment of “announcing the new OpenTormentNexus!”.

Funnily enough, Gajim from Flatpak (1.9.5) does drag and drop just fine!

I can’t remember what version we’ve got on our laptop– [can’t we just check packages.debian.org?] right! It’s 2.1.1-2, apparently. Good to hear that 2.2.0 is non-adwaitified, that sounds like a good place to fork from.

– Frost

We were homeschooled.

Not the “religious nut” kind of homeschooling though. I wasn’t even aware that was a thing growing up. Our parents actually raised us totally atheist, so almost the opposite!

Personally I’m glad we were homeschooled, our parents actually did teach us well and we learned all the academic stuff you’d expect us to learn. (The state we grew up in also has a system of “you take yearly state-run standardized tests to make sure you’re actually being taught stuff”, which probably helps. But like, I don’t think that was the only reason our parents taught us well, I’m pretty sure they actually cared, too.)

The downside of all that is that it helped our parents keep us isolated. But honestly, I’ll take that over the bullying (and indoctrination) we’ve heard of public school having. Public school sounds like hell.

– Frost

Yeah, personally I don’t really like the GPL* (for stuff that isn’t actively of interest to companies), but this kind of stripping the GPL from an existing project is just, gross. Definitely seems like an active attempt to nuke it and take it over.

(*because I like it when other open source people can use a given piece of code e.g. I wrote, and I’m not particularly picky about whether they agree with me on what specific form of open source is best; wanna use my MIT or public domain code in a GPL project? go for it!)

(s/open source/free software/g if you’re one of the “open source isn’t REAL FREE SOFTWARE!!!” people; I use the terms interchangeably, bite me)

(also I get using the GPL for stuff that companies would actively want to take over. Like, apparently, this project.)

– Frost

This is why we run Gajim 1.9.5 in flatpak.

Which. Got removed from flathub, so to install it on our laptop, we had to do some kind of weird flatpak sideloading thing.

On our laptop we’ve been using Gajim 2.something from Debian 13 (our desktop runs testing so we can’t do that there). It’s not Full Gnomified. It also locks up whenever we try dragging a picture into the chat window to send. So… yeah.

Someone should fork Gajim pre-2.

Yeah, pawb.social had a mishap that resulted in all the images getting deleted (the ones that weren’t hotlinked from other places). I’d reupload the screenshot but I don’t even know if I have it anymore at this point. (It’s probably there, but I doubt I could find it.)

– Frost

man I’m SO late on this, sheesh

but the ones at the top are CPU usage (per-core), ones on the bottom left are CPU (overall)/RAM/swap!