I use Kagi too, it’s surprisingly snappy! Like seriously impressive for a small org. They talk about speed optimisation being critical for them as well. I find the result to be excellent as well. A true Google replacement/feels like Google in its prime.

I believe they have their own index and bot as well?

This is good news! And we/they should keep pushing for more, everywhere. Good for IBEW for continuing the pressure.

Yes….on a technical level. But the picture is bigger than that. Personally, I have a hunch that the choice of Rust is making Lemmy’s development slower. This seemed to be evidenced by the fact that Kbin has more functionality than Lemmy while having only been around for 2 months. Vs Lemmy’s 4 years. The Kbin dev has also been much more able to fix things on the fly during the surge in users. Whereas Lemmy will supposedly move off websocket use any day now.

Adoptability isn’t something to be discounted. The fact that there any more people out there familiar with PHP may give Kbin an edge over time. And let’s be honest, in real-world test PHP can very often be faster then - less-than-mature-Rust codebase.

Kind of like how Lemmy made up communities? Lol you don’t call microblogs “toots” either. Seems every fediverse software has their own terminology.

Also it’s dev, singular. Kbin has been put together by only one dev. I personally find that damn impressive considering it’s functionally on par with Lemmy being only 2 months old to Lemmy’s 4 years.

They do have their own crawler and I believe supplement from bing only when necessary. Something like 98% of results are from their own index across all users. They actually have a breakdown for every search.

I think they actually have the largest independent index outside of Google/Bing right now.

Others that exclusively use their own index are:

Mojeek (results aren’t great)
Kagi (result are pretty good imo)

I think Google peaked about 6-8 years ago now and then started slipping at an ever accelerating rate.

It’s almost useless for me when searching anything remotely technical or otherwise niche.

I almost consistently need to go to the second page of results now, something I don’t remember doing since like 2009.

I find Bing acceptable. Brave search works well. But I’m actually using Kagi now since I’m hoping their paid model will actually mean I’m not the product.

Via the ActivityPub protocol that fediverse software uses :)

Pretty cool stuff!

Kbin can also directly interact with Mastodon users and toots because of this. Kbin magazines can natively contain both “threads” from Kbin and Lemmy, and microblog “posts” from Kbin and Mastodon. (And other software depending how they map these features.)

You bet! The fediverse is definitely a confusing concept to wrap your head around the first time. And it doesn’t help that different software server instances don’t need to use a site name that specifies which software they are (like Beehaw, for example).

It depends on what you mean by other servers…Lemmy instances? I haven’t seen any differences between kbin instances.

Kbin is entirely different software from Lemmy; it’s a completely different backend.

So that would be why it’s “better” in that regard than Lemmy instances. My understanding is that it’s a bug in Lemmy that will be fixed soon.

The “popping” of the feed in Lemmy is tied to their use of websockets instead of http. I believe the devs stated they’ll be moving off of websockets in the future.

Using Orion on iOS currently (there’s a macOS version too). It’s made by the same people behind the Kagi search engine. I’m loving it. Built with WebKit and on mobile it utilises some power saving feature Safari does not.

They plan to release a Windows version eventually too, and using WebKit! (Not Chromium).

Just checked out the Arc website and am interested! if you can still can send invites I’d take one :)

Same lol. I rarely pay attention to this stuff as someone with a science background. But this has me in a wait-and-see mode of cautious excitement.

First time I’ve heard of it! But it looks likes it’s using soundcloud now so maybe that’s why.

I was wondering the same thing. What has me intrigued is that a few congressmen tweeted about this source being “credible”. And the fact that this whistleblower apparently testified for over 11 hours in a closed-door congressional hearing has me wondering if this is actually something.

Same! I was a longtime Reddit user and I’m still learning the ropes here but am getting vibes of my Reddit subs as they felt 10-15 years ago. I hope we continue to grow in healthy ways here

Exactly! I’m really glad I found kbin first. I was along time Reddit user and this community is giving me vibes of what my Reddit subs felt like 10-15 years ago. I hope we grow in a healthy way here!