Whenever i talk to people about privacy, specifically my friends when i tell them why i switched to Signal and stopped using WhatsApp, i’m always met with people saying that i’m just making no sense and “why would you care so much if you have nothing to hide? I don’t care that meta sees that stuff” and some people are just so stubborn to understand that they might even settle on the “what would a billion dollar company want from me specifically?”. It makes me mad how people refuse to even consider alternatives and open their mind a bit. What do you think?
“Unlock your phone and hand it to me”
“Yeah, that’s what I thought”
“Let me take a quick look through your browser history to confirm that you in fact have nothing to hide.”
You have nothing to hide until what was once acceptable rapidly changes.
That’s the angle I take. Its fine now, sure. What about when Nazis end up in charge again?
And then all the sudden you’re a conspiracy nut to be disregarded, all the while they’re saying it and doing it out loud and in broad daylight.
Shift the conversation towards autonomy, dignity and self-respect.
The user’s interaction with the-billion-dollar-company’s software is unpaid labour, which is why they profit and the user suffers. They suffer from having their data stolen; they suffer the expenses fostered on to them; they pay for the computers that spy on them; they pay for the electricity to run the spyware; they pay for the data-subscriptions that facilitate the theft of their data. They cover all the expenses of a billion-dollar-company and are deprived of any profit. They do not even garner a wage.
If one wishes to move towards the point of “my data is worthless” point out the company’s profits or even its speculative valuations. Clearly it’s not worthless. The products that are derived from their exploitation lead to even greater profits for those companies. “A.I.” is a looting of the collective commons. A privatization of humanity’s interaction with computers.
Do they like being exploited? Do they like their batteries draining faster, because their mobile-computer is running software to spy on them? Do they like running out of data because their mobile-computer is forcefully downloading ads and spyware-updates? Do they like ads? Do they like being interrupted by the highest bidder? Do they like annoying notifications that are just ads? Do they like this shitty experience? Are they complete docile slaves? They are less than wage-slaves for they do not even garner a wage! Have some self-respect and dignity!
Lock eyes and unzip their pants.
do you shit with the door open , let me. take a few pics of you doing that
hand over your phone and let me take a look.
do you shit with the door open?
I hate this argument.
why?
everyone shits, everyone knows everyone shits, every one knows what the person in the dedicated shitting room is doing
yet we all close the door
I saw someone on YouTube respond with “give me your phone and let me go into the other room for an hour”
Arguing that you don’t care about the right to privacy because you have nothing to hide is no different from saying you don’t care about free speech because you have nothing to say. - Edward Snowden
came here to say this and i’m glad lemmy is keeping this alive.
“Can I come watch next time you and your partner have sexy times?”
The big perspective shift for me, is not that I feel obliged to privacy in public. It’s when the institution observing is so big and centralised that it becomes a power issue. I don’t care if you (the people) see all that I do in public, I have nothing to hide. I do care when your agenda is to see everything and gain power from it.
- me some time ago
That is a good response. The problem is though they are also collecting data when we are in private. Look at what LG and I grantee you other smart TVs are doing.
Then why do you close the door when you take a shit?
But what are they hiding there?
They don’t think they have anything to hide because they think of it as “evil activity”
Reframe it, like sure you are not doing anything bad but these companies don’t care about criminal or evil behaviour. For them you are like livestock you only serve one purpose: making them money, there are no morals involved. They would sell your data to absolutely anyone for any reason! YOU can’t think of anything bad they could do with your data because YOU are not evil but THEY absolutely are. If an evil person wants your data you shouldn’t give it to them because they WILL find a way to use it against us, its a law of nature just like gravity.
Ask them for their social security number and credit card with ccv code.
“I have nothing to share” It’s healthy to want privacy and to say I don’t want to share.
This is a good response I typically don’t have anything to hide. But do I want to share everything with everyone no.
Spot on.
