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For me, it was always just a good excuse to distro hop and find something new to explore. There have been plenty of problems that I’ve fixed, but when I failed to find the culprit a reinstall only takes about 20 minutes.

This is the level of error that would usually lead to me, backing up my important files on a removable media of some kind and reinstalling my operating system

Absolutely. One of the best parts of the Linux experience is the community helping each other in so many places on the internet.

EndeavourOS is terminal centric. If you try it out you might need to learn some new tricks, but its forums are fantastic and I rarely have issues with it. Cachy is supposed to be really good too.

I have never experienced ds4drv actually working. Maybe it is time for a distro hop if you’re feeling frisky. I highly recommend EndeavourOS as an entry level to Arch. I’m also curious about CachyOS and PikaOS.

Something like this just not working is usually what drove me on too a new distro until I found something that just works really well for me.

So yeah, this is the answer, or should be. I run EndeavourOS, an Arch based distro (btw) and I also installed ds4drv thinking I’d need it, and my dualshock4 wouldn’t connect. I deleted ds4drv, rebooted and tried again and viola, it connected immediately, with full support including rumble and touchpad. The drivers were in the kernel all along.

If FartSparkles is also correct about your old kernel after you sudo apt purge ds4drv, you can search instructions for how to upgrade to a newer kernel version, it isn’t very difficult to do.

So, I used to play valorant and pubg when I was still a windows user. It was around the time of my switch to Linux that I learned about intrusive kernel level anti cheat.

Honestly, I don’t miss them, and refuse to play a game that compromises the safety and security of my operating system, just as much as I refuse to use an operating system that even allows kernel level access to something as trivial as a game.

My latest run in with this issue was the Marathon pre-alpha. I was granted access only to find that Bungie was Linux hostile, and after making a few speeches about it in the discord I uninstalled it and left.

I’m fine with this scenario. If I want competitive multiplayer I have CS2, Apex legends, and others. If games refuse to support Linux, fuck em.

Just another lens to view this through. There’s a certain rebellious spirit that can come along with embracing FOSS, and that should be part of the appeal.

Three years ago when I used Mint I had minimal issues, but it sounds like things have declined since then.

My path went something like Pop_OS>Mint>Fedora Workstation>Mint>MXLinux>Nobara>EndeavourOS>Fedora Workstation for a solid year>and back to endeavour with hyprland.

But that’s just the stuff I’ve installed and actually kept longer than a few days. I’ve installed silverblue, kinoite, openSUSE tumbleweed, bluefin, bazzite etc just to learn them, and honestly I just don’t see the use case for average users in atomic distros. Non atomic distros are entirely stable if you don’t do stupid things with them, and doing stupid things with them is a great learning experience.

Same old Linux differences in opinion.

Totally valid. I tried Mint with my father in law before and we had issues as well before I migrated him to Ubuntu which works wonderfully for him. I hadn’t used Mint myself in a couple years and figured the issues were hardware specific.

Using toolbox to force out of tree software to function is not nearly as simple going to the discover app and clicking “download”

Remember we’re talking about a kid. Not a power user. We’re talking about people that don’t know and don’t want to know what a kernel module is. Are those extra steps fine for you? Great, knock yourself out. They aren’t feasible for a child or grandmother who wants to just click shit and see it launch.

I use EndeavourOS without a desktop environment and install and configure Hyprland for myself. I enjoy those extra steps. Someone unfamiliar with my system wouldn’t even be able to open the web browser. That’s fine for me. I’m not going to suggest it for my 74 year old father in law. He uses Ubuntu.

Is it making sense yet?

Using literally anything that requires an out of tree kernel module, for one. Have some peripherals with features that aren’t supported by drivers already present in the kernel? Good luck getting any DKMS packages running on your machine.

I’m hearing a lot of very poor advice in here, at least from my perspective as a Linux user who’s been through the gamut of various distros over the years.

Fedora atomic desktops are not beginner distros. That is not their purpose, and their limitations make many things a person may eventually want to do with their machine a lot more complicated.

Debian? Are we joking here? Debian is an amazing distro for what its purposes are, but it’s not beginner friendly. Debian is bare bones.

Linux Mint is the easiest answer here. Ubuntu LTS (or its classroom based fork edubuntu) is another great answer. I know every Linux user on the internet recoils in horror at the mention of Ubuntu but it really is a drop in plug and play solution for kids and old people.

Another way to fix this, would have been to navigate to the pkgbuild file in question, right click, open with, Kate. I’m more familiar with Gnome than KDE but I assume there’s an option to make Kate your default for opening files of that type.

I could be mistaken, but that editor looks like nano, which is just a super simple text editor. Ctrl-x should bring quit the editor and ask if you want to save.

How were you editing PKGBUILD files before? A GUI based editor?

Yep, I guess I should have lead with that, but I’ve been on an AMD GPU for so long I almost forgot what a pain closed source Nvidia drivers can be.

Fedora works perfectly with secure boot and I keep it enabled when I’m using fedora. It’s worth noting, that if you require any software in the form of a kernel module (for instance, openrazer, a Linux tool for controlling razer devices) it won’t function with secure boot enabled because it isn’t registered at boot. You’d have to reboot to bios, turn off Secure Boot, log in and set your configs, then reboot and turn secure boot back on.

Or you could just leave it off.

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Yep. Two solid years of steady gaming on various Linux distributions. No issues aside from no more pubg, no more valorant. Oh wait, that’s not an issue at all. Fuck their rootkits.

The current US administration and its demagogues and lackeys have been doing all sorts of things they shouldn’t be able to do in a normal society. You’d be amazed at how quickly they’d be able to shut down a form of mass media they can’t control.

It’s fine if you don’t like my mentality. I’m highly selective about who I let into to my day to day life in meatspace. I like small gatherings, and keep a high bar for who I want to associate with. I don’t see why I shouldn’t apply the same principle to my internet life.

Do you want them here? I don’t. I don’t tell a soul about lemmy, because this is place for me to get away from them. A place for mostly rational discussion, populated by people free thinking enough to seek an alternative. If the masses descended on Lemmy, they’d ruin it like they ruin everything else. They’d draw the attention that would lead to it being litigated, regulated, purchased, corporatized etc. Let them stay on Facebook and Reddit.

Edit: ITT: A bunch of people who haven’t paid attention to how mind bendingly stupid content has become on mainstream social media, or worse yet, actually enjoy the chum pumped out by Facebook and TikTok and want it to come to lemmy as well. I’ll wear my downvotes with pride.