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And books need paper. Trees wouldn’t be cut down if authors quit writing. Therefore, AI and authors are evil.

(You can train AI without data centers and you can write books without printing them.)

I don’t know what you’re talking about. Only an idiot would (admit they) use AI and call the hate of the hivemind mob down on them. Everything you’ve said is entirely correct. Additionally AIs are evil. Nothing good about them. All the problems they have are unsolvable. They only make slop. Everything they make is random but also paradoxically plagiarism. A baby is killed whenever they’re given a prompt. Only you know how they work, everyone else is wrong. Blah blah blah. Did I miss anything? Oh, yeah, right…

I’ve never used AI, and I never will.

Yep, you’re right. It’s toxic and no one should use it.

Me? Nothing. I’ve never used it and I never will use it. I’ve heard the angry mob comes after you with insults and argument if you even admit to thinking about using it, and I have no need of all that hate in my life. So I’ve never used it, and will never use it.

The same problem Christmas lights and video games solve: none. It’s totally useless! Ban them all.

I’ve learned there’s no good that can come from admitting you use AI - you’ll only get an angry mob after you. That’s why I’ve never used AI and never will. It’s evil! Evil I tell you! Hit it with a banhammer, quick, before it gets away! Don’t let it lay it’s eggs!

You’re right. We should ban AI, video games, Christmas lights, television, and anything else that uses energy in a way you don’t approve of until there’s an energy surplus. No argument here.

Lol

You make compelling points. Ignore the kneejerk down votes from morons blinded by hatred. You contribute significantly to the conversation, they just hate that you do.

I agree, and it’s very possible. I think the real limiter is that consoles don’t have the RAM necessary to load the models to enable it. Maybe in the future, when models become more efficient in memory usage, or more likely, the RAM shortage is resolved.

Okay, less than a sentence. I can do that:

LMAO? Roflmao.

wild gesticulations

I’m not sure what you mean. I read the last paragraph, then read it two more times to be sure I didn’t miss anything. What are you insinuating?

Nevermind. I get it, you’re criticizing me for reiterating the conclusions.

Your prejudice runs deep. I’ve never used AI for a conversation. I use it for generating art, solving errors, adding software features, solving technical problems, analyzing data, and identifying plants/animals. Using it for conversation seems a poor use for the technology. Some people probably do, though, but if they post it they endorse whatever it is that’s being said, so they may as well have written it.

I guess in the future the solution is to only respond with one or two sentences? I’ll try to continue the conversation in that matter but my arguments won’t be very compelling.

No, AI does not. Data centers do, and they’re being used for AI, but AI can be used without data centers. You’re mis-attributing the blame. Blame negligent corporations making unnecessary data centers, not the technology they aim to use.

Those detriments listed can also be mitigated. AI can be powered with clean energy, and cooled with closed loops. They’re not, but they could be. AI isn’t to blame, it’s greedy, negligent corporations that are using AI.

Yeah, and authors are to blame for trees being cut down. It doesn’t matter that books don’t necessarily need to be printed on paper, it’s a clear line from authors writing to trees being cut down, so we should all hate authors.

Right?

I think you would be surprised. Read on and be astounded.

Huh, it’s not animated for me. Even when clicking to open it in another window. Oh well, I’ve seen the episode enough that it may as well be animated when I look at it.

Local models have no token prices.

Sorry, I started out polite but the overwhelming majority of people here have responded as assholes so I’ve resorted to the same. I’ve essentially given up - people can’t even seem to discern the difference between AI and data centers, and I’m tired of explaining such subtleties over and over again without the other party gaining even a whiff of comprehension.

Let me start fresh, with you, after my sincere apology for my initial reaction.

Why do you believe using AI removes the soul of a game? There’s still a person involved, directing the AI - purposefully planning the prompts, meticulously curating the resulting content, and imparting their own judgement in determining inclusion. Refining the results until it meets their standard of quality. To attribute the results entirely to the tool used is to discount the human using the tool.

I remember having the exact same reaction as you when Final Fantasy VII came out. I was appalled the developers left behind hand drawn pixel art to instead use computer generated imagery. I literally said they removed the soul of the game by using a computer to create their art.

With age, I’ve realized I was wrong. The tools used don’t remove the soul, so long as a person is still there making the final call, they just enable the person to better realize their own vision and often times that clashes with what the audience expects/desires, but it doesn’t invalidate their vision, as I previously thought.

Most of the time they’re not even talking about AI, they’re instead talking about ancillaries like data centers, but they can’t fathom the distinction.

Because /fuck_ai exists