On mobile fluffychat allows me to view my old messages

  • Yup. A couple of months ago my wife’s Element and my Fluffychat suddenly started having problems decrypting each other’s messages. That was the last straw; having to go through Matrix’s annoying and tedious key sync dance every couple of months isn’t worth it. I switched us to SimpleX, which kinda sucks right now, but it at least works and doesn’t have a flakey, broken, unusable key management mechanism.

    She’s completely off Matrix now. I still use it as a more complex, fussy IRC, because that’s where my rooms are… but I’ll probably go back to IRC eventually. The family is on Wire, which is also stable amd works well.

      • This is a client problem, a flaw in how clients exchange, manage, and maintain keys. How would server volume affect clients being unable to decrypt messages from people they were previously able to? Neither my wife nor I added new devices, or rotated keys.

        My theory is that it was the result of a client version upgrade, because that does happen pretty regularly. And this hasn’t been the first time it happened; the previous time there was a week or so when messages were not decryptable, and then it mysteriously fixed itself.

        Element and Matrix (the protocol) is just flakey.

        • Sht sib, i just recreated one of my DMs and that fixed it! Can’t recreate public encrypted rooms, but at least it’s an improvement! Thanks!

          Any tips for like public encrypted rooms? Since can’t recreate them and leaving/rejoining didn’t fix those rooms

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    Under “Settings” > “Security & Privacy”, do you see your Android Element device as being “Verified”?

    • Yeah. I just reinstalled both in-case I had an old version.

      The message don’t appear at all. With verification failures, it displays something like ‘waiting for a key’. No warning or anything, it’s almost like android element has set desktop element as a blocked user.