• davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    That’s the basic idea behind socialism

    Not really, no. What you’re describing is the socialization of production.

    What you’re describing is fine; it’s not wrong. The issue is that you’re abusing the term “socialism,” which already has a well-defined and widely agreed-upon meaning that is quite different from the one you’re using.

    • 777Prawn@sh.itjust.works
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      21 hours ago

      You’re right, the textbook definition is social ownership of the means of production, and “socialized costs” or “public support” would be more precise for what I’m describing. And I don’t think it’s “well-defined and widely agreed-upon.”

      Marxists, market socialists, democratic socialists, and libertarian socialists all disagree on what it actually requires, and in everyday US usage it’s commonly used to mean government spending for social programs.

      Either way, my point stands: we already collectivize risk and costs for some groups. The real question is who gets that help.