Plus a number of historians with different fields.

Oh I see what you’re saying. I thought you were saying 12 different states, as in different countries. I’ve been reading a lot of international news lately.

I feel like the US would take over California again if that was the case. It’s why they like to split up their enemies, to make them easier to control (Korea, China, all the gulf states and parts of the Ottoman Empire, Yugoslavia, etc.).

My personal view is yes, California should leave. I feel like California has the best chance of turning into some sort of Democratic Socialist state without the rest of the US holding it back, and it’s big and rich enough it could possibly actually defend it.

100% agree with op. Just saw Happy Death Day recently for the first time and was impressed by how fun it was, but it took me a while.

Thanks for answering. That’s a great reply and I’m going to save this comment.

How do you get past the initial brainworms even bringing up the word communism? Like someone else said above, I feel like I can’t even bring up an alternative path or get them to pick up a book without them yelling about China and Tiannamen Square, or Stalin and his killing a bajillion millon people, or how “communism has never worked”. It’s so annoying to have to go back to these basic, first-grade points every time.

Lol good luck

Wow what a beautiful passage. And thanks, I’ll take a look at that book.