Prior to one of mullvads ceo’s being outed as a nazi, they didn’t appear to have anything wrong with them at all. Good history, policies, and software. ivpn and airvpn appear to be the only other legitimate choices to me, especially is you are northern hemisphere and a windows user, as most people are. Southern hemisphere and linux it is a bit trickier.
surfshark (apparently) having tracking was enough to make me not bother looking much further into them. With so many choices, the easiest way is to omit those who seem problematic (kape, 87% off!!!, logs, tracking etc)
I doubt you could even start a car.
“Arrogance and ignorance go hand in hand”
Congratulations on the syllables though, keep up the good work there.
You did not start any companies.
Using numbers does not = actual math
Using the word “logic” incorrectly is illogical.
How much crack do you smoke?
It has already attracted negative press, some of it valid, some of it due to deliberate manipulation and idiots (op as an example of both), the effect on their reputation will not be short lived, and this issue will continuously resurface online. They still need to deal with it though, and soon.
It has already cost them business/money due to refunds ($$$ ???), and a short/medium/long term reduction in new customers.
“That is if people care” Always the issue with humanity.
People tend to be polar online, rarely fair, or decent.
consider logic, ask a friend, or teacher to help you.
Refunded because I want mullvad to do the right thing, and to continue as a legitimately ethical vpn.
I want privacy and a decent planet.
#3 is not something I have seen before, seems an odd choice for them Their server list is over 75 pages on their website, a pain in the arse to assess, the app itself appears to give no indication of servers, you have to guess, or search.
The recent contact I have had with ivpn suggests the company is genuine, and customer service is good. Unfortunately they do not tick the boxes for me re: linux software, and southern hemisphere servers. Definitely worth considering if in northern hemisphere though, maybe even south for some.
if you want even more, use fextralife. outside of that I rarely see them with mullvad
Proton excel at marketing, they are greenwashing for the privacy crowd.
Going out on a limb here, could it be… ethics?
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I wasn’t aware that airvpn refused Italian customers, the company definitely has some interesting policies though: including no servers in israel, or russia, and no servers in australia because of our f*cked up internet privacy laws.
Is it the half finished software, the ai, the dodgy social media activity, the crap customer service, or the right wing ownership that attracts you to proton?
I’m on manjaro kde
Windscribe has their app on the AUR, I would rather it was on official (like mullvad) but that is really asking too much, not a huge dealbreaker.
From memory the app was okay. I tried their free, but then they didn’t verify my email or something so the paid didn’t work, resulting customer service and other online interactions have been weird though, both the owner and the ai customer service. Windscribe is also reported to have had a security issue where they were searched or whatever, and failed (they apparently had user data), the owner is also reported to be a transphobe - grain of salt with both of those, I haven’t verified them.
i just did new testing (speedtest) with mullvad: singapore and malaysia were both decent enough, although a high ping with malaysia. indonesia, philippines, and thailand were also decent enough speedwise.
Singapore appears a feasible alternative (at least the mullvad servers), have not found mention of their privacy etc laws yet though. Malaysia occasionally pops up on ‘best locations’ lists.
Mullvad doesn’t have 1 founder/1 ceo
“one co-founder” no sense
proton is greenwashing for those interested in privacy.
I was previously a customer, walked away from a 2 year subscription that still had about 18 months left on it.