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2·1 month agoI agree. A proper counter movement is needed.
Big American corporations are heavily lobbying EU council and governments. Transparency is not working, EU council are rolling back on GDPR, massively eroding our privacy, which is irreversible.
With the likes of Trump in charge the US are not trustworthy with any data. The data that they already take illegally is too much.
The UDHR article 12 is supposed to protect our privacy.
We need a counter movement big enough to scare the politicians when they start bending to the Big-Tech. They are not in the least bit worried as things stand now.
Peter Hummelgaard (among others) and his arrogance does not seem even a little concerned about his position.
https://www.corporateeurope.org/en/2025/11/roll-back-digital-rights-prepared-secrecy
Yes, that’s the same with many things. No counter movement.
We will see how transparent it all is
https://transparency.eu/briefing-lobby-transparency-in-the-eu/
At a guess, I’d imagine big tech companies are lobbying as most of the information that they use comes from data gathering. Using data directly from texts etc. Leaves them open to court cases.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/nov/12/eu-gdpr-data-law-us-tech-giants-digital
The options are limitless to the politicians regarding money making opportunities pushing x,y and z through once our private correspondence and devices are being scanned.
For example, in years to come insurance companies could refuse to pay out on all sorts of claims using that data. Doctor may have recommended you walk a mile a day and change your diet. You don’t do it, or just miss a day, your life insurance policy is voided. Car crash not your fault, no payout because you missed something else etc.
I couldn’t begin to to guess the amount of ways that this information could be used, but it’s a complete u-turn from what the EU was saying only a few years ago
They still recommend using signal - but only internally.
Which in itself is bizarre.
And exempting themselves from being scanned is just showing what they really think.
The timeline is here
Currently Denmark pushing it, they hold the EU presidency at the minute. Their minister for justice - Peter Hummelgaard is responsible for the big push and the wording. Specifically trying to pull the wool over the general public. Ireland are next (they take over in January) And the minister for justice in Ireland (Jim O’Callaghan) is also in favour of it.
Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights - Right to privacy in the digital age
they would not be trying again if they did
It’s not the bureaucrats pushing it that are the problem, Hummelgaard is embedded so far up his own ass that nothing could change his mind to the realities of what he’s proposing.
It’s convincing the swing voters that he’s changing nothing other than the wording, but also that the general public, when made aware en-masse, would not allow the politicians to exempt themselves from this.
They have already rethought it a few times. The changes made have been to encourage the politicians to vote yes. One of the biggest, of not the biggest is to make them exempt from scanning. Enough questions in the right places and at the right times, would not give them any choice.
How could they defend adding an exemption clause for themselves into such an invasion of privacy.
No, I just wasn’t sure if you knew how the proposal is attempted. There are far too many to simply remove to stop it. The majority will still continue their term, and if with this mindset, could still push it through.
A good way to help them rethink it, is to have their devices scanned too. The only way this is going forward, is if they think that they are exempt from scanning.
But while they’re still serving their elected terms, and seem adamant to push this through, the least we can all do is push for their devices to be scanned too, if it has to go through.
I think it is more likely that the people proposing it don’t understand what it is that they are proposing. They don’t seem to have a grasp of why privacy should be so protected and what they are proposing is way too much. It also seems to completely contradict what the EU were saying about 5 years ago, possibly less.
And so it continues… Google trying to shoehorn themselves into a position of authority of the internet. Imagine they get as much sway as the banks now have? Private entities controlling the masses for massive profits. Fuck off Google.
Have a look at who owns the other big names (this article doesn’t include all VPNs under their umbrellas)
Search ‘ziff Davis Israel’
Search ‘Tesonet Israel’
https://vpnpro.com/blog/hidden-vpn-owners-unveiled-97-vpns-23-companies/
TV Bro - https://github.com/truefedex/tv-bro
DTVFree - https://github.com/InukaAsith/DTVfree
Both mentioned here - https://github.com/Generator/Awesome-Android-TV-FOSS-Apps
According to the wiki page you linked, incogni are owned by surfshark.